8:52 a.m.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 16:13:44 +0200, deloptes wrote:
OK, Thank you Tino,
I have the feeling you are right. I'll try to build the debian packages on
the test env, where I will need to install the evolution and kde libs as
well, so that I'll be able to build all available/suggested backends.
What about merging the code into the syncevolution git tree?
What is the "official" procedure?
Hi,
that question is better sent to the syncevolution mailing list, as I'm
only the Debian maintainer.
Regards,
Tino
10:26 p.m.
New subject: [SyncEvolution] Debian building packages for syncevolution 1.5.1 and TDE backends
Tino Mettler wrote:
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 16:13:44 +0200, deloptes wrote:
> OK, Thank you Tino,
> I have the feeling you are right. I'll try to build the debian packages
> on the test env, where I will need to install the evolution and kde libs
> as well, so that I'll be able to build all available/suggested backends.
>
> What about merging the code into the syncevolution git tree?
> What is the "official" procedure?
Hi,
that question is better sent to the syncevolution mailing list, as I'm
only the Debian maintainer.
Regards,
Tino
Hi again,
I noticed there is no package for stretch - for jessie and sid there is
one - what are the plans or what is the story?
This is also version 1.4.99 - why not 1.5.1 (I mean at least sid)?
https://packages.debian.org/sid/syncevolution
I also did not understand how I can get the TDE backends into the
syncevolution code tree, or what you would advise to do with backends that
target specific desktop environment (TDE)?
There are couple of options and I have no idea what is the best way. The TDE
team could provide packages, or it could go through the supported distros.
What would you advise?
Here is reference to TDE: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
Thanks in advance
regards
6:32 a.m.
New subject: [SyncEvolution] Debian building packages for syncevolution 1.5.1 and TDE backends
On Tue, 2016-06-28 at 00:26 +0200, deloptes wrote:
I noticed there is no package for stretch - for jessie and sid there
is
one - what are the plans or what is the story?
This is also version 1.4.99 - why not 1.5.1 (I mean at least sid)?
https://packages.debian.org/sid/syncevolution
I think it had to be removed because it no longer compiled in stretch.
1.5.1 needs to be uploaded, then it can migrate to stretch again.
I also did not understand how I can get the TDE backends into the
syncevolution code tree, or what you would advise to do with backends that
target specific desktop environment (TDE)?
I think it would be best to include it in the upstream release. Then it
is easier for distros to enable it, if they want. OTOH, if a distro
wants, they can already now grab the SyncEvolution source, add the
backend directory from a separate archive or location, and compile both
together.
But there's one unsolved problem either way: distros most likely use the
glib D-Bus bindings. It is the more modern solution. When enabling the
TDE backend, distros would have to use the same workaround as you did
and switch back to the libdbus-based bindings. Not sure whether that's a
viable long term solution.
There are couple of options and I have no idea what is the best way.
The TDE
team could provide packages, or it could go through the supported distros.
What would you advise?
Here is reference to TDE: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
Are there distros which include TDE or is the normal approach to use the
packages prepared by the TDE team for certain distros?
If TDE is not included in a distro and SyncEvolution is, then the distro
can't compile the TDE backend. In that case the TDE team could try to
compile the backend against the SyncEvolution version provided by the
distro, but that's tricky - I'm not even sure whether distros install
all the header files, and a custom makefile would have to be written for
the backend.
Another alternative would be to provide SyncEvolution packages as part
of TDE, overriding the ones provided by the distro. That's also not a
good solution and something that I am currently struggling with in the
project, because for example, Ubuntu has non-upstream patches and
SyncEvolution must be compiled exactly as chosen by Ubuntu, otherwise
the replacement would not work as the original, distro-provided
packages.
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7:03 a.m.
New subject: [SyncEvolution] Debian building packages for syncevolution 1.5.1 and TDE backends
Patrick Ohly wrote:
On Tue, 2016-06-28 at 00:26 +0200, deloptes wrote:
> I noticed there is no package for stretch - for jessie and sid there is
> one - what are the plans or what is the story?
> This is also version 1.4.99 - why not 1.5.1 (I mean at least sid)?
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/syncevolution
I think it had to be removed because it no longer compiled in stretch.
1.5.1 needs to be uploaded, then it can migrate to stretch again.
Thank you Patric, I just realized why
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=824426 ,
perhaps I should try with the git code of syncevolution.
> I also did not understand how I can get the TDE backends into
the
> syncevolution code tree, or what you would advise to do with backends
> that target specific desktop environment (TDE)?
I think it would be best to include it in the upstream release. Then it
is easier for distros to enable it, if they want. OTOH, if a distro
wants, they can already now grab the SyncEvolution source, add the
backend directory from a separate archive or location, and compile both
together.
But there's one unsolved problem either way: distros most likely use the
glib D-Bus bindings. It is the more modern solution. When enabling the
TDE backend, distros would have to use the same workaround as you did
and switch back to the libdbus-based bindings. Not sure whether that's a
viable long term solution.
I don't know who to ask but I'll discuss this with the TDE people, thanks.
This dbus issue is on the todo list as well.
> There are couple of options and I have no idea what is the best
way. The
> TDE team could provide packages, or it could go through the supported
> distros. What would you advise?
>
> Here is reference to TDE: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
Are there distros which include TDE or is the normal approach to use the
packages prepared by the TDE team for certain distros?
If TDE is not included in a distro and SyncEvolution is, then the distro
can't compile the TDE backend. In that case the TDE team could try to
compile the backend against the SyncEvolution version provided by the
distro, but that's tricky - I'm not even sure whether distros install
all the header files, and a custom makefile would have to be written for
the backend.
TDE is not included in a distro. It is installed on top, being independent
from other desktops shipped with the distro.
This makes the case even more complicated, because if in example Debian
ships syncevolution with evolution and akonadi/kde backend, TDE should
demand from Debian compiling with tdepim support or provide own (TDE)
packages that would add tdepim backend (as you describe below). Same for
SuSE etc ...
Another alternative would be to provide SyncEvolution packages as
part
of TDE, overriding the ones provided by the distro. That's also not a
good solution and something that I am currently struggling with in the
project, because for example, Ubuntu has non-upstream patches and
SyncEvolution must be compiled exactly as chosen by Ubuntu, otherwise
the replacement would not work as the original, distro-provided
packages.
I understand, thanks again. I think perhaps it's best to merge syncevolution
and plugins in TDE and build own packages for now. If you add the code to
syncevolution and it goes around several distros, it would be harder to
update and I have still few places for improvement, though overall I did
not have any issue in the past few months.
thanks and regards
7:39 a.m.
New subject: [SyncEvolution] Debian building packages for syncevolution 1.5.1 and TDE backends
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 00:26:47 +0200, deloptes wrote:
Tino Mettler wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 16:13:44 +0200, deloptes wrote:
>> OK, Thank you Tino,
>> I have the feeling you are right. I'll try to build the debian packages
>> on the test env, where I will need to install the evolution and kde libs
>> as well, so that I'll be able to build all available/suggested backends.
>>
>> What about merging the code into the syncevolution git tree?
>> What is the "official" procedure?
>
> Hi,
>
> that question is better sent to the syncevolution mailing list, as I'm
> only the Debian maintainer.
>
> Regards,
> Tino
Hi again,
I noticed there is no package for stretch - for jessie and sid there is
one - what are the plans or what is the story?
This is also version 1.4.99 - why not 1.5.1 (I mean at least sid)?
Hi,
sorry for the delay. I have serious trouble finding a sponsor to upload
the 1.5.1 package. The last info I got is that an upload could happen
in a few days (at least this week).
Regards,
Tino
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